tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post6902577032528952455..comments2024-03-06T04:50:47.440+01:00Comments on More than just wine: Rosé comes with spring, and at different pricesAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15635428184895066582noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-23731705867450542492011-04-05T20:25:06.634+02:002011-04-05T20:25:06.634+02:00I wish roses like this is more available in the St...I wish roses like this is more available in the States. . . lucky you to live in France for that.Lorienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-4002807685832333972011-04-02T17:42:11.444+02:002011-04-02T17:42:11.444+02:00Waterloo is home to a recently opened fine food an...Waterloo is home to a recently opened fine food and wine retail shop, adequately named “L’accent catalan”. It is located 387, Chaussée de Bruxelles and run by a Michael Fernandez. You cannot miss it. Free to you to stop there, if ever your tyres are in need of cooling down.<br />Meantime, I abandon to your sheer enjoyment this very lyrical little anthem:<br />“ Napoléon 1er, est mort à Sainte-Hélène<br />Son fils Léon, lui a crevé l’bidon.<br />On l’a r’trouvé, sur le dos d’une baleine,<br />En train d’bouffer, les fils de ses caleçons ... »<br />Our only excuse was we were five at the time we used to sing it.Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-31143281236601937362011-04-02T10:56:42.603+02:002011-04-02T10:56:42.603+02:00And, on the subject of pricing for wines, I will t...And, on the subject of pricing for wines, I will try to reveal some of my contradictions in tomorrow's article.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635428184895066582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-74926287028283637692011-04-02T10:55:11.556+02:002011-04-02T10:55:11.556+02:00Maybe this was a special edition for Belgium, wher...Maybe this was a special edition for Belgium, where Ducati clubs organise spring runs every year, and these are called Primavera. I note that the one organised this year by the Brussels club starts and finishes at Waterloo.<br />Luc, I have long since noticed your acute sense of observation, as well as your remarkable memory.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635428184895066582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-49720692598687220832011-04-02T10:12:54.995+02:002011-04-02T10:12:54.995+02:00You may have noticed I pay attention to titles, Da...You may have noticed I pay attention to titles, David. Yours always have an interesting added value, or contain a hint. This time, I’d be tempted to add that your Ducati’s valves also come with spring(s). Moreover, I’m almost convinced I remember a limited edition they used to call “Primavera”.Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-87757092237380953862011-04-01T19:33:37.058+02:002011-04-01T19:33:37.058+02:00I think we DO agree on this Luc. I am not saying t...I think we DO agree on this Luc. I am not saying that one should pay no attention to quality in rosés. They should be judged like any wine, of course. Just that in this particular case, I do not think that the price spread of 1 to 5 is justified. At the upper end of this scale we are into the realm of marketinge and price positioning for egos. But I am very happy to pay, say, 8 to 10 euros for a really good rosé.<br /> <br />And I totally agree about Roederer's overpriced Cristal rosé. Only for the silly rich, the rich and silly, and so on.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635428184895066582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6219646897587177986.post-42062643907456077982011-04-01T10:52:35.420+02:002011-04-01T10:52:35.420+02:00David, we often agree, but mostly not on the matte...David, we often agree, but mostly not on the matter of pricing.The angle is different, I suppose, according to which side of the account you stand: the receiving end or the paying party.<br />For any consumer, the right price is that which corresponds, according to him/her, to the pleasure he/she derives from the wine. This pleasure can be based on esthetic criteria, inebriational ones (the famous piss-up), self-esteem (snobbery), digestion ....<br />For the producer, I’m naive enough to think “cost-of-goods” is the basis on which to build a price-list, modified according to “fame”, rarity, skill .....<br />By and large, rosé is made from shitty grapes. Indeed, whether you go for direct pressurizing or for “saignée”, the skins are not all too important. Generally, the aging takes less time. Finally, the yield is often higher. All these reasons prove you right and one CAN make profit while selling a decent rosé around 5 € retail price.<br />Still – and I do not speak solely on my behalf – many a producer of fine rosé will use very good grapes, picked at the right time, at a reduced yield and will take very similar care as for his best white wines. Then, I do not see why they should end up cheap. The example that comes to my mind – and I apologize for not remembering it’s name – is the one Jean Gardiés makes, adding some cinsault to the blend (very rare in Roussillon) and aging it in oak ... with subtlety. A hell of a mouthful of a good wine.<br />On the other end of the spectrum, why people would spend a fortune on Roederer’s Cristal rosé, this most acidic of “piquettes”, remains a puzzle to me.Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.com